<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Sansblogue &#187; Complaint</title>
	<atom:link href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/category/bible/complaint/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue</link>
	<description>biblical studies : bible : digital : food</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 21:30:26 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
		<item>
		<title>Another in my series on the &#8220;Confessions of Jeremiah&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/another-in-my-series-on-the-confessions-of-jeremiah/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/another-in-my-series-on-the-confessions-of-jeremiah/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Biblical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Complaint]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Jeremiah]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=927</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[As some of you know (despite this week working on my &#8220;Assertions of YHWH&#8217;s sovereignty and imperial context in the book of Isaiah&#8221; paper &#8211; provisional but current title, watch this space ;) I am continuing my series of short biblical studies podcasts on The Confessions of Jeremiah adding two more to the series, which [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Fanother-in-my-series-on-the-confessions-of-jeremiah%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_928" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 215px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dickuhne/55054217/sizes/z/in/photostream/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-928" title="55054217_c259ba5242_z" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/55054217_c259ba5242_z-205x300.jpg" alt="" width="205" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Confessions of the Lovelorn (image by dickuhne)</p></div>
<p>As some of you know (despite this week working on my &#8220;Assertions of YHWH&#8217;s sovereignty and imperial context in the book of Isaiah&#8221; paper &#8211; provisional but current title, watch this space ;) I am continuing my series of short biblical studies podcasts on The Confessions of Jeremiah adding two more to the series, which now comprises:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="The Confessions of Jeremiah" href="http://5minutebible.com/the-confessions-of-jeremiah/">The Confessions of Jeremiah</a></li>
<li><a title="Jeremiah’s first confession: Jer 11:18-12:6: Part One" href="http://5minutebible.com/jeremiahs-first-confession-jer-1118-126-part-two-jeremiah-and-yahweh/">Jeremiah’s first confession: Jer 11:18-12:6: Part One</a></li>
<li><a title="Jeremiah’s first confession: Jer 11:18-12:6: Part Two Jeremiah and Yahweh" href="http://5minutebible.com/jeremiahs-first-confession-jer-1118-126-part-two-jeremiah-and-yahweh/">Jeremiah’s first confession: Jer 11:18-12:6: Part Two Jeremiah and Yahweh</a></li>
<li><a href="http://5minutebible.com/jeremiah%e2%80%99s-second-confession-jer-1510-21-complex-relationships/">Jeremiah’s second confession: Jer 15:10-21: complex relationships</a></li>
<li><a title="Jeremiah’s third confession: Jer 17:12-18: How might YHWH respond?" href="http://5minutebible.com/jeremiahs-third-confession-jer-1712-18-how-might-yhwh-respond/">Jeremiah’s third confession: Jer 17:12-18: How might YHWH respond?</a></li>
</ul>
<p>On this latest one, I wonder how YOU think Yahweh might have wished to respond to this complaint from our Jerry?</p>
<p>PS: Plus another in the series: <a title="Permalink to Jeremiah’s fourth confession: Jer 18:18-23 the continuing drama of Jeremiah and his Yahweh" href="http://5minutebible.com/jeremiah%e2%80%99s-fourth-confession-jer-1818-23-the-continuing-drama-of-jeremiah-and-his-yahweh/">Jeremiah’s fourth confession: Jer 18:18-23 the continuing drama of Jeremiah and his Yahweh</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/another-in-my-series-on-the-confessions-of-jeremiah/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Lament and complaint</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-and-complaint/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-and-complaint/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Biblical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Complaint]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Publishing]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=837</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[For my paper for the lament colloquium I want to distinguish three functional types of complaint/lament text: lament which bemoans complaint which charges or accuses confession which despite the circumstances (which might warrant lament or complaint) expresses trust in the one spoken about or addressed Notice that this classification is not formal, it is concerned [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Flament-and-complaint%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_839" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/slushpup/2779208480/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-839" title="2779208480_39c4c7b305_z" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/2779208480_39c4c7b305_z-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Lament, I don&#39;t know maybe (photo by I Don&#39;t Know)</p></div>
<p>For my paper for the lament colloquium I want to distinguish three functional types of complaint/lament text:</p>
<ul>
<li>lament which bemoans</li>
<li>complaint which charges or accuses</li>
<li>confession which despite the circumstances (which might warrant lament or complaint) expresses trust in the one spoken about or addressed</li>
</ul>
<p>Notice that this classification is not formal, it is concerned with the attitude of the speaker of the text, and is thus functional rather than formal. Rather like Brueggemann&#8217;s functional classification of the psalms.</p>
<div id="attachment_838" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 235px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/manc/344541132/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-838" title="344541132_23ab150093_z" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/344541132_23ab150093_z-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Complaint Department photo by mrmanc</p></div>
<p>Interestingly, recently Tremper Longman III has distinguished lament and complaint on formal grounds not merely seeing &#8220;complaint&#8221; as a clarification of the naming of &#8220;lament&#8221;. He speaks of lament when the text addresses God, and complaint when it is about God, but addressed to other humans. The &#8220;lament&#8221; psalms are examples of one, and Num 20:1-13 of the other.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-and-complaint/#footnote_0_837" id="identifier_0_837" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="Tremper Longman, &ldquo;Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People? A Biblical-Theological Approach,&rdquo; in Eyes to See, Ears to Hear: Essays in Memory of J. Alan Groves, ed. Peter Enns (P &amp;amp; R Publishing, 2010), 48">1</a></sup></p>
<p>Longman&#8217;s classification is really interesting, but what really interests me is not the form of the text but the implied attitude of the &#8220;speaker&#8221;. After all attitude is why naming matters.  Juliette&#8217;s protest: “<em>What&#8217;s in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet</em>” served her needs, distinguishing the object of her love from his family name. Yet by the end of the play we know that her claim, though perhaps true of roses, is less true of families! What we call things matters, not least because our naming consciously and unconsciously reflects and shapes what we perceive. While Juliette might claim that “<em>Romeo would, were he not Romeo call&#8217;d, retain that dear perfection which he owes without that title</em>” others will merely see a Montague, one against whom they are sworn in feud.</p>
<div id="attachment_840" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 184px"><strong><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vudigitallibrary/5202044164/#/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-840" title="5202044164_6daf8c7271_z" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/5202044164_6daf8c7271_z-174x300.jpg" alt="" width="174" height="300" /></a></strong><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo by Digital Library @ Villanova University</p></div>
<hr />NB: In this post I return (the marking season being over :) to my paper for the first February colloquium and therefore topics I addressed before:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Permalink to Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &amp;  confessions?" href="../bible/bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/">Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &amp;  confessions</a> which  responded to Jim West&#8217;s response “<a title="Site: Zwinglius Redivivus" href="http://zwingliusredivivus.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/jeremiah-were-his-confessions-his/" target="_blank">Jeremiah: Were His Confessions His?</a>” to Don C. Benjamin &#8220;<a href="http://www.bibleinterp.com/opeds/jerem357905.shtml">Jeremiah: Memoirs or Laments? (Jer 11:18-20; 12:1-6; 15:10-21, 17:14-18; 18:18-23; 20:7-13</a>)&#8221;</li>
<li><a title="Permalink to Lament, complaint or confession: Prophets and “their” books" href="../bible/lament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books/">Lament, complaint or confession: Prophets and “their” books</a> which &#8220;merely&#8221; responded to Brooke&#8217;s comment on my earlier post.</li>
</ul>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_837" class="footnote">Tremper Longman, “Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People? A Biblical-Theological Approach,” in <em>Eyes to See, Ears to Hear: Essays in Memory of J. Alan Groves</em>, ed. Peter Enns (P &amp; R Publishing, 2010), 48</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-and-complaint/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Lament, complaint or confession: Prophets and &#8220;their&#8221; books</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Amos]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Biblical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Complaint]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Jeremiah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[confession]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lament]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[prophet]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=553</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Brooke commented on my post Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &#38; confessions? There’s a somewhat analogous issue in Dan 9:4b-19, with the pious deuteronomistic prayer that contrasts theologically and ideologically with the apocalyptic narrative framework. The scholarship has move over time from: a) those who deny the issue (“Daniel wrote it, there’s no contrast, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Flament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>Brooke commented on my post <a title="Permalink to Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &amp;  confessions?" href="../bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/">Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &amp;  confessions?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>There’s a somewhat analogous issue in <a href="http://bible.logos.com/passage/tniv/Dan%209.4b-19">Dan 9:4b-19</a>,  with the pious deuteronomistic prayer that contrasts theologically and  ideologically with the apocalyptic narrative framework. The scholarship  has move over time from:</p>
<p>a) those who deny the issue (“Daniel wrote it, there’s no contrast,  take your fancy pants form criticism and go away”); to<br />
b) those who see a “ham-handed pious redactor” who “inserts” the prayer  (these are the ones who are getting the goat of the traditionalists); to<br />
c) those who say, “Hey, if the author of Daniel 9 knew the genre of the  post-exilic deuteronomistic prayer of community penitence, then maybe he  incorporated or wrote such a prayer himself.”</p></blockquote>
<div id="attachment_555" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wmshc_kiwitayro/496948512/in/photostream/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-555" title="496948512_2e0640534a_b" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/496948512_2e0640534a_b-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">What is the relationship between a book and the &quot;people&quot; it contains? (Photo by kelly taylor)</p></div>
<p>Indeed the trajectories of scholarship on the two books seems to have been similar. In Jeremiah too most of the ink has been spilled over issues of the historicity (of the words seen as ascribed to the prophet Jeremiah in the late sixth-early seventh century) and more recently the history of the text (seen as growing over time rather like a snowball or a hymn<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books/#footnote_0_553" id="identifier_0_553" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="Many hymns that were commonly sung in churches in the 20th century had had verses added over time, many too had had wording adjusted and adapted over the years, as well as in some cases being translated from other language originals">1</a></sup> ) However, my interest in whether the texts traditionally called the &#8220;Confessions of Jeremiah&#8221; is not in these areas. I wonder how these texts are intended to function as components of the larger text known as the book of Jeremiah (mainly I am interested in the MT edition, though it would also be interesting to look at whether these sub-texts function differently in the other well-known edition &#8211; found commonly in the LXX).</p>
<p>This is partly a question of genre. If the composer(s) of the book thought of these texts as &#8220;complaints&#8221; then they would function differently than they would if they were thought of as &#8220;laments&#8221;. But perhaps they were used as &#8220;confessions&#8221;. In this case the genre attribution would only in part depend on the form, which is close to the lament/complaints in Psalms, but also on how the passages function in the book. Is Jeremiah (the eponymous character in the book, not the putative sixth-fifth century person) lamenting something, complaining to God or confessing?</p>
<p><!-- 		@page { margin: 2cm } 		P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } -->I hope to use the book of Amos, which contains texts that do all these things, as a point of comparison. The speaker of the book and/or their God laments (5:1-3), &#8220;Amos&#8221; complains (7:1-6) and the speaker of the book confesses (1:2; 4:13; 5:8-9; 9:5-6).<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books/#footnote_1_553" id="identifier_1_553" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="I had not noticed before writing that, but it is all the major characters of the book who are involved here, among the actors in the book only those satirised and the land are left out.">2</a></sup></p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_553" class="footnote">Many hymns that were commonly sung in churches in the 20th century had had verses added over time, many too had had wording adjusted and adapted over the years, as well as in some cases being translated from other language originals</li><li id="footnote_1_553" class="footnote">I had not noticed before writing that, but it is all the major characters of the book who are involved here, among the actors in the book only those satirised and the land are left out.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/lament-complaint-or-confession-prophets-and-their-books/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &amp; confessions?</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 23:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Biblical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Complaint]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Jeremiah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[confessions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[genre]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lament]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[scholar baiting]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=538</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Lake Tekapo, New Zealand Jim West, in typically forthright style (and with no evidence or argument provided &#8211; come on Jim ante up, present some reasons for your opinion!) links to and pooh-poohs a short post &#8220;Jeremiah: Memoirs or Laments? (Jer 11:18-20; 12:1-6; 15:10-21, 17:14-18; 18:18-23; 20:7-13)&#8221; by Don C. Benjamin at Bible and Interpretation. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Fdid-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p><span> </span></p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 585px;"><a href="http://www.bigbible.org/blog/pics/tekapo_s.jpg"><img title="Lake Tekapo, New Zealand" src="http://www.bigbible.org/blog/pics/tekapo_vs.jpg" alt="" width="575" height="150" /></a></p>
<p class="wp-caption-text">Lake Tekapo, New Zealand</p>
</div>
<p>Jim West, in typically forthright style (and with no evidence or argument provided &#8211; come on Jim ante up, present some reasons for your opinion!) links to and pooh-poohs a short post &#8220;<a href="http://www.bibleinterp.com/opeds/jerem357905.shtml">Jeremiah: Memoirs or Laments? (Jer 11:18-20; 12:1-6; 15:10-21, 17:14-18; 18:18-23; 20:7-13</a>)&#8221; by Don C. Benjamin at <em>Bible and Interpretation</em>. Benjamin rehearses briefly the sort of form-critical argument usually presented to claim these passages as &#8220;laments&#8221;, mainly and even more briefly that they follow the typical form of that genre. A common corollary of that claim is to deny these texts to Jeremiah seeing them as &#8220;traditional texts&#8221; rather than the outpouring of a &#8220;great spirit&#8221;. West seems to wish to return to the maximalist position, viewing the texts (perhaps) as belonging to a person (Jeremiah the prophet), at least his title suggests this: &#8220;<a title="Site: Zwinglius Redivivus" href="http://zwingliusredivivus.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/jeremiah-were-his-confessions-his/" target="_blank">Jeremiah: Were His Confessions His?</a>&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Ever since Gerhard von Rad described various passages in Jeremiah as  ‘Confessions’ scholars have discussed and debated the idea.  Personally,  I’ve never been persuaded that von Rad was wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Now, of course, though the idea that, through the confessions Jeremiah initiates a new sort of prophecy, where the life of the prophet is as significant as their message, did "belong" to the great von Rad</em>,<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/#footnote_0_538" id="identifier_0_538" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="As well as his Theology see also the essay reprinted as Gerhard von Rad. &ldquo;The confessions of Jeremiah.&rdquo; In A Prophet to the nations: essays in Jeremiah studies, edited by Leo G. Perdue and Brian W. Kovacs, Eisenbrauns, 1984, 339-48.">1</a></sup> <em>he was by no means the first to use the name "confessions" for these passages</em>.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/#footnote_1_538" id="identifier_1_538" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="As evidence see: Thomas Kelly Cheyne, Jeremiah: his life and times. A.D.F. Randolph, 1889, 2.">2</a></sup>]</p>
<p>I think this gives me a topic for my contribution to the colloquium <a title="Permalink to spiritual│complaint : theology and practice of  lament" href="../uncategorized/spiritual%e2%94%82complaint-theology-and-practice-of-lament/">spiritual│complaint : theology and practice of lament</a>. I now plan to work on &#8220;Did Jeremiah confess? Or: Laments, complaints &amp; confessions?&#8221; Personally unlike that renowned maximalist Dr Jim, I have never been convinced that we even have any evidence for the existence of a &#8220;prophet Jeremiah&#8221; in sixth century Judah, but I can see no reason for the character Jeremiah the prophet from the eponymous book not to have used the complaint form&#8230;</p>
<p>I do hope I have baited Jim enough to get a response with some meat in it (he can put it here in the comments if he really wants to keep his blog pure and free from argument and evidence ;) and perhaps others of you enough to start a discussion, which will help me firm up my ideas for the colloquium!</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_538" class="footnote">As well as his Theology see also the essay reprinted as Gerhard von Rad. “The confessions of Jeremiah.” In <em>A Prophet to the nations: essays in Jeremiah studies</em>, edited by Leo G. Perdue and Brian W. Kovacs, Eisenbrauns, 1984, 339-48.</li><li id="footnote_1_538" class="footnote">As evidence see: Thomas Kelly Cheyne, <em>Jeremiah: his life and times</em>. A.D.F. Randolph, 1889, 2.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/did-jeremiah-confess-or-laments-complaints-confessions/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>The prophecies of Neferti</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/archaeology/the-prophecies-of-neferti/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/archaeology/the-prophecies-of-neferti/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 06:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Amos]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[archaeology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Complaint]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Isaiah]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=488</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve finally got to read James Linville&#8216;s Amos and the Cosmic Imagination I know it was published back in &#8217;08, but books (especially expensive European books take a while to get to our library down here ;) The book itself is stimulating, not least because he seems to be starting in the right place i.e. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Farchaeology%2Fthe-prophecies-of-neferti%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>I&#8217;ve finally got to read <a href="http://drjimsthinkingshop.com/about/">James Linville</a>&#8216;s <em>Amos and the Cosmic Imagination</em></p>
<div style="border-width: 1px; margin: 5px; padding: 5px; float: right; width: 250px;"></div>
<p>I know it was published back in &#8217;08, but books (especially expensive European books take a while to get to our library down here ;)</p>
<p>The book itself is stimulating, not least because he seems to be starting in the right place i.e. assuming that Amos is something like a work of historical fiction written sometime in the Persian or Hellenistic period, and without making too much fuss about the textual archaeology that seems so often to render studies of the prophetic corpus dull and insipid, he takes the reader (at least in the first chapter or two) on a journey of imagination into reading this work.</p>
<div id="attachment_508" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/savingfutures/3263126049/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-508" title="Meidum_PyramidSM" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Meidum_PyramidSM1-300x162.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="162" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The pyramid of Snefru (photo by Charlie Phillips)</p></div>
<p>However, that&#8217;s not what I want to write about here, in an almost passing comment he refers to the <em><a href="http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=5wYyHlqABRcC&amp;pg=PA139&amp;lpg=PA139&amp;dq=The+prophecies+of+Neferti&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=CByA1oYOa5&amp;sig=4JtQTpwVkUfP-xGe3TYS3lgyvq4&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=sHohTJDsEsi6cbOo0Sg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=5&amp;ved=0CCwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&amp;q=The%20prophecies%20of%20Neferti&amp;f=false">Prophecies of Neferti</a> </em>an Egyptian work that I&#8217;ve not paid much attention to. It really is fascinating stuff, well at least to me, set back in the days of Snefru some four or five hundred years in the (presumed) writer&#8217;s past it tells of a prophetic speech, delivered to the ancient king by a sage. The contents are much like a biblical prophetic book, though with the narrative frame in place of a superscription. So, already a sort of paradigmatic prophetic fiction from the 20th century (BCE), but beyond or as well as that there are loads of phrases and images that resonate with Amos&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, how can I work all this together to make a paper on either Complaint or Isaiah and Empire, since I need material for abstracts on those topics fast!?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/archaeology/the-prophecies-of-neferti/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

