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		<title>Fairtrade: Coffee, Chocolate &amp; Bananas</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of you, I hope many, do not need to read this post. Sadly those who flick past will probably be mainly those who DO need to read it :( When I posted a recipe for some nice Chocolate Muffins (which are actually a sort of moist and juicy cross between muffins and brownies, but [...]]]></description>
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<p>Some of you, I hope many, do not need to read this post. Sadly those who flick past will probably be mainly those who DO need to read it :(</p>
<p>When I posted a recipe for some nice <a href="http://carnivores.bigbible.org/recipes/chocolate-muffins-non-vegan/#comments">Chocolate Muffins</a> (which are actually a sort of moist and juicy cross between muffins and brownies, but that&#8217;s another story) on Repentant Carnivores <a href="http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ethescarletmanuka/">Heather</a> commented suggesting that I should have recommended that people use FairTrade chocolate and cocoa. To my reply that &#8220;<em>I just assumed that people would (at least try to) use Fair Trade</em>&#8221; she wrote: &#8220;<em>Wow! You must move in very different Christian circles from me! I know relatively few Christians who think that such buying decisions have anything to do with their faith (even Christians who are very aware of and concerned about the Majority World)</em>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Fair trade is a Christian issue</strong>:</p>
<p><strong>God hates rapaciously greedy oppressors</strong>. The prophets and the Old Testament laws had loads to say about the evils of injustice and how God cannot tolerate people who oppress their neighbours. Jesus had some interesting things to say about who our neighbours  might be. Put these together and if our buying in the market (or even supermarket) is done at a price that does not allow the producers to live a decent life we are acting in a manner that God abhors. Whether or not there is any truth in claims that: &#8220;God hates fags&#8221; it is abundantly clear that God does hate rapaciously greedy oppressors.</p>
<p><strong>The world trade system is rapaciously greedy</strong>: Unless it is moderated by consumer choice or government legislation the world trade system in which we operate is rapaciously greedy. (In this post we will ignore legislation, that&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s business.) Take <strong>coffee</strong>,  a high proportion of coffee is grown by small farmers,<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/ot/pentateuch/exodus/fairtrade-coffee-chocolate-bananas/#footnote_0_1431" id="identifier_0_1431" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" 70% from properties of less than 10Ha. ">1</a></sup> they get usually a tiny proportion of the price that the big coffee companies charge for the end product<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/ot/pentateuch/exodus/fairtrade-coffee-chocolate-bananas/#footnote_1_1431" id="identifier_1_1431" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Typically less than 10%. ">2</a></sup> these prices hardly cover the cost of production.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/ot/pentateuch/exodus/fairtrade-coffee-chocolate-bananas/#footnote_2_1431" id="identifier_2_1431" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" In 2010 the price was around US$2/pound&nbsp; according to the International Coffee Organisation. ">3</a></sup> Buying &#8220;normally traded&#8221; coffee therefore is oppressive and unjust.</p>
<p>For <strong>Chocolate and Cocoa</strong> the issue is different, there much comes from large plantations, whose owners (Western companies or local elites) make good money, but pay a pittance to their workers, or even if many stories from reputable sources including the US State Department are to be believed use child slaves imported for the work from neighbouring countries. Buying &#8220;normal&#8221; chocolate products is therefore oppressive and cruel.</p>
<p>For <strong>bananas</strong> there is a third problem, here most production is from large estates, the monoculture practices of these companies require the use of dangerous chemicals, the companies have often bribed government officials and legislators to ensure that they can continue to expose their workers to these chemicals (and so not lose their commercial edge). Buying &#8220;normal&#8221; bananas thus endangers the health of the people who worked to grow your banana.</p>
<p>You CAN now (at least in NZ) often find FairTrade coffee at the supermarket &#8211; there is no excuse to buy anything else.</p>
<p>You CAN now (at least in NZ) often find cafes that sell FairTrade coffee &#8211; there is no excuse to go anywhere else.</p>
<p>FairTrade chocolate and cocoa are less easy to find, a few supermarkets stock them, but often you have to go to a TradeAid shop, or buy online: <a href="http://www.tradeaid.org.nz/">NZ</a>, or <a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&amp;channel=fs&amp;q=trade+aid&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8#sclient=psy-ab&amp;hl=en&amp;client=ubuntu&amp;hs=zDP&amp;channel=fs&amp;source=hp&amp;q=fair+trade+online+shop&amp;pbx=1&amp;oq=fair+trade+online+shop&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=g2g-m1&amp;aql=&amp;gs_sm=e&amp;gs_upl=13310l19372l0l19884l22l10l0l0l0l1l2784l13920l3-1.6-1.2.2.3l9l0&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&amp;fp=f51f088013f93507&amp;biw=1136&amp;bih=536">search Google</a>.</p>
<p>Some supermarkets stock fairly traded bananas.</p>
<p>If your supermarket does not stock these products do some <strong>Social Media Activism</strong>, &#8220;social media&#8221; is a hot notion among marketers, supermarkets want you to &#8220;friend&#8221; them on Facebook. Do so. And then post on their wall asking them to stock Fair Trade products. If enough people post on Pak n&#8217; Save&#8217;s FB page, they <strong>will</strong> stock Fair Trade&#8230; it&#8217;s up to you!</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1431" class="footnote"> 70% from properties of less than 10Ha. </li><li id="footnote_1_1431" class="footnote"> Typically less than 10%. </li><li id="footnote_2_1431" class="footnote"> In 2010 the price was around US$2/pound  according to the <a href="http://www.ico.org/prices/p2.htm">International Coffee Organisation</a>. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Humour in every book in the (Hebrew) Bible</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/humour-in-every-book-in-the-hebrew-bible/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have completed the first (of the three) sections of my response to David&#8217;s Funny Stuff in the Bible challenge: Humour in the Bible: Book 1 Genesis Humour in the Bible: Book 2 Exodus Humour in the Bible: Book 3 Leviticus Humour in the Bible: Book 4 Numbers Humour in the Bible: Book 5 Deuteronomy [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have completed the first (of the three) sections of my response to David&#8217;s <a href="http://lingamish.com/2007/09/funny-stuff-in-the-bible/">Funny Stuff in the Bible</a> challenge:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Humour in the Bible: Book 1 Genesis" href="http://5minutebible.com/reading/humour-reading/humour-in-the-bible-book-1-genesis/">Humour in the Bible: Book 1 Genesis</a></li>
<li><a title="Humour in the Bible: Book 2 Exodus" href="http://5minutebible.com/reading/humour-reading/humour-in-the-bible-book-2-exodus/">Humour in the Bible: Book 2 Exodus</a></li>
<li><a title="Humour in the Bible: Book 3 Leviticus" href="http://5minutebible.com/reading/humour-reading/humour-in-the-bible-book-3-leviticus/">Humour in the Bible: Book 3 Leviticus</a></li>
<li><a title="Humour in the Bible: Book 4 Numbers" href="http://5minutebible.com/reading/humour-reading/humnour-in-the-bible-book-4-numbers/">Humour in the Bible: Book 4 Numbers</a></li>
<li><a title="Permalink to Humour in the Bible: Book 5 Deuteronomy" href="http://5minutebible.com/reading/humour-reading/humour-in-the-bible-book-5-deuteronomy/">Humour in the Bible: Book 5 Deuteronomy</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I must confess I was hoping for more help with Leviticus, I am saddened by my listeners&#8217; lack of appreciation of humour, you must be a sombre bunch. Indeed, for Deuteronomy my help camed from a Rabbi, much better at recognising and appreciating humour than most Evangelicals, sadly.</p>
<p>I was fully expecting to fail on Leviticus, however, that hurdle overcome, I am sure the rest will come tumbling  out &#8211; I&#8217;m relying on Miriam to suggest some lighthearted laughs from  Lamentations ;)</p>
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		<title>Theological education: some autobiographical reflections: Childhood</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s a wonder my faith survived (at least until now) the processes and adventures of my theological education.  Perhaps it is a tribute to sovereign and prevenient grace. I was brought up in a Christian family. At first we were Brethren, then when the local hall closed (lease expired and a carpet seller wanted to [...]]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s a wonder my faith survived (at least until now) the processes and adventures of my theological education.  Perhaps it is a tribute to sovereign and prevenient grace.</p>
<p>I was brought up in a Christian family. At first we were Brethren, then when the local hall closed (lease expired and a carpet seller wanted to move in) my parents having no car, we became Baptist. The church was middle of the roadish for Baptists in the UK at the time. So I remembered later (when I came to read John Robinson&#8217;s <em>Honest to God</em> for myself, and thought &#8220;how sensible, but surely everyone understands that God &#8211; being the creator of everything &#8211; can hardly live somewhere in the sky&#8221;) a blistering sermon one evening against Robinson and any notion of being &#8220;honest to God&#8221; about our faith.</p>
<p>However, the big crunch issue for me was Science. From almost as soon as I could read serious books (age 7 or 8 I guess) I was a huge fan of Science. Evolution and its more up to date, and excitingly still being discovered, cousin stellar evolution and the possible Big Bang enthralled me. These ideas made so much good sense, and they were based on evidence and open to discussion.</p>
<p>[Big bangs especially enthralled me, and each Guy Fawkes' Day my friends and I tried for bigger and bigger ones, using cigar tubes and the gunpowder from fireworks. But that's another story.]</p>
<p>At church, it seemed to me, I was expected to believe that God made the universe in one week (working on Saturday because making a universe with untold millions of stellar systems was a big job even for God). God even apparently planted fossils and other artworks so as to mislead us into believing that the whole process had taken him many many millions of years. I never understood why God did not want us to know what a big job it had really been, so my first niggles of doubt were born.</p>
<p>It was Religious Education (the only compulsory subject in the UK education system at the time) that planted the deepest questions though. We had an ardent but not very pastoral Anglican priest. He taught us all about some strange characters called J, E D and P  who apparently did Moses out of a job by writing the Pentateuch (but not being God, it took the four of them much more than a week). It was dull stuff, and I did not hear much of it. But one day somehow it got interesting. He spoke warmly about how God gave each of us our very own &#8220;Guardian Angel&#8221; when we were baptised. That stirred me up, I knew many of my friends were already baptised, and were even soon to be &#8220;confirmed&#8221;, but I was a Baptist, and not yet legally or in the eyes of the church an adult and so not baptised, yet. (Actually I was still not biologically an adult, but that is another story.)</p>
<p>So I asked the obvious question. &#8220;What happens to people who have not been baptised as Anglicans, but who go to other churches?&#8221; The reply shocked me. &#8220;I suppose God makes some sort of provision for <strong>people like that</strong>!&#8221;  Not that I really expected or wanted my own Guardian Angel, such imaginary creatures hardly fitted into my chrome-plated scientific worldview. But to be called, scornfully &#8220;people like that&#8221; and in front of a entire class of my peers!</p>
<p>That was it, I was at war with the Anglican Church, and all other forms of superstitious nonsense from that very day.</p>
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		<title>God as cold-blooded killer</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/god-as-cold-blooded-killer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been podcasting my way through the E100 (100 &#8220;essential&#8221; Bible readings designed to give a good overview introduction to the Bible). Today we got to Exodus 12: E100-19:&#160;Exodus12: A great festival, but a huge theological problem. I faced a dillemma, the podcasts are billed as 5 minute Bible, so I can&#8217;t go much over [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Fgod-as-cold-blooded-killer%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>I&#8217;ve been podcasting my way through the E100 (<a href="http://e100nz.org.nz/index.php">100 &#8220;essential&#8221; Bible readings</a> designed to give a good overview introduction to the Bible). Today we got to Exodus 12: <a title="Permalink to E100-19: Exodus 12: A great festival, but a huge  theological problem" href="http://5minutebible.com/e100/e100-19-exodus-12-a-great-festival-but-a-huge-theological-problem/">E100-19:&nbsp;Exodus12: A great festival, but a huge  theological problem</a>. I faced a dillemma, the podcasts are billed as 5 minute Bible, so I can&#8217;t go much over 5:30 for even a difficult passage. This chapter tells the story of Passover, vital stuff, not least (for Christian readers) as the NT takes it up as picture language to speak of what God does for us in Christ. But of course, in telling that it also (inevitably) tells of the killing of the first-born of every Egyptian household, even the animal ones (shades of the Ninevites in Jonah?). So how do I deal with that? How do you talk about God the cold-blooded killer in less than 5 minutes? Or at all?</p>
<p>At least, when many of your listeners are conservative Christians, who believe that the Bible is Word of God, and who do not understand that phrase as &#8220;liberally&#8221; as you do?</p>
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		<title>Helicopter gunships in Joel &#8211; a plea for help</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Photo by Chris M0EEG My problem is a variant of Lingamish&#8217;s, but with existential urgency. He asked about one sort of almost unpreachable text (the vengeance passages in the OT) whether he should not just cut the Gordian knot and hack them from Scripture. I am preaching this Sunday (tomorrow already :( I have to [...]]]></description>
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<p><img style="max-width: 800px;" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Gunship-by-Chris-M0EEG.jpg" alt="" align="right" />My problem is a variant of Lingamish&#8217;s, but with existential urgency. He asked about <a href="http://lingamish.com/2010/03/what-to-do-with-the-vengeance-of-the-old-testament-skip-it/">one sort of almost unpreachable text </a>(the vengeance passages in the OT) whether he should not just cut the Gordian knot and hack them from Scripture. I am preaching this Sunday (tomorrow already :(</p>
<p>I have to preach on one of those passages where the vivid pictures cause people to read the Bible as a code book. You know, the helecopter gunships in Joel or the jewels in the priestly breastplate&#8230; passages preachers are tempted to read as coded messages. They are two a penny in some parts of the Bible.</p>
<p>My problem is pretty much the usual one, except my topic was announced last month &#8220;<em>The Bible is NOT a codebook, it means what it says</em>&#8220;. Great idea, right? But how does one of these passages work to preach it straight.</p>
<p>If:</p>
<blockquote><p>5 As with the rumbling of chariots,<br />
they leap on the tops of the mountains,<br />
like the crackling of a flame of fire devouring the stubble,<br />
like a powerful army drawn up for battle.<br />
6 Before them peoples are in anguish,<br />
all faces grow pale.<br />
7 Like warriors they charge,<br />
like soldiers they scale the wall.<br />
Each keeps to its own course,<br />
they do not swerve from their paths.<br />
8 They do not jostle one another,<br />
each keeps to its own track;<br />
they burst through the weapons and are not halted.</p>
<div>Joel 2:5-8</div>
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<p>Is not a prophecy of helecopter gunships in the 20th or 21st century, but of locusts and/or an invading Iron Age army then how is it good news for people in Blockhouse Bay tomorrow?</p>
<p>My problem has greaqter existential urgency as I have a church leadership retreat all day today, so only have a few hours for sermon prep tonight and tomorrow morning, so please help me!<br />
How would YOU preach Exodus 26? Or the beginning of Joel 2?</p>
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