<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Sansblogue &#187; Theology</title>
	<atom:link href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/category/spirituality/theology/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue</link>
	<description>biblical studies : bible : digital : food</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:54 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>The Ethics of Animal Testing and being Carnivorous</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/food/the-ethics-of-animal-testing-and-being-carnivorous/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/food/the-ethics-of-animal-testing-and-being-carnivorous/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Food]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Genesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Repentant Carnivore]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Theology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1677</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I was recently asked about the ethics of animal testing. While I&#8217;m aware that it is a very contentious issue for &#8220;animal rights activists&#8221; it is not one I have thought much about. Though, since I grow animals to eat, I am closer existentially to that related issue than someone who gets their meat from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Ffood%2Fthe-ethics-of-animal-testing-and-being-carnivorous%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_1679" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 305px"><a href="http://www.animalfarmlife.eu/cattle_beef_3.html"><img class="size-full wp-image-1679" title="beef_production" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/beef_production.jpg" alt="" width="295" height="238" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fattening beef, commercial &quot;farming&quot; (photo from Animal farm Life)</p></div>
<p>I was recently asked about the ethics of animal testing. While I&#8217;m aware that it is a very contentious issue for &#8220;animal rights activists&#8221; it is not one I have thought much about. Though, since I grow animals to eat, I am closer existentially to that related issue than someone who gets their meat from the supermarket.</p>
<p>It seems to me there are some simple principles that provide guidance:</p>
<ul>
<li>God made animals so we have a general responsibility to care for them like for the rest of creation (see Gen 1)</li>
<li>God explicitly allowed the use of animals for human benefit including killing them to eat (see Gen 9:3) n.b. I&#8217;d see this extending to the next line&#8230;</li>
<li>Research and testing which is of other great benefit for humans should also therefore be considered within God&#8217;s will.</li>
</ul>
<div>
<div id="attachment_1680" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Pig-breeding-factory.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1680" title="Pig-breeding-factory" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Pig-breeding-factory-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">We have a duty to care for God&#39;s creation - including other creatures we use for food.</p></div>
<p>This leads to the tentative conclusions:</p></div>
<div>
<ol>
<li>We have the right to use animals for our benefit. (This is an extension, but a small one of the permission to eat them in Gen 9:3. Testing products for safety would (to my mind) fall under this category.<br />
BUT</li>
<li>We have a responsibility to care for them, and so the testing should not be cruel nor unnecessary.</li>
</ol>
<div>I suspect that in NZ the Government and the SPCA ensure testing is not cruel and is &#8220;necessary&#8221;. So, cautiously, I am in favour of animal testing.</div>
<div></div>
<div>OTOH, especially now that I am involved in rearing animals for meat, it seems to me that much that today goes by the name of &#8220;farming&#8221; is unnecessarily cruel and therefore ethically indefensible. To keep animals penned up in small areas to make human food cheaper or more tender is wrong. Much pork and chicken and some beef (not so much in NZ where most is free range grass fed) transgresses the criterion of care.</div>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/food/the-ethics-of-animal-testing-and-being-carnivorous/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Review copies</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/review-copies/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/review-copies/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Biblical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gender]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Genesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[God as mother]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[interpretation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Isaiah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Luke]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Matthew]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Numbers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Open Source]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psalms]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Publishing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ruth]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Theology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1674</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[If you would like a review copy of the print version of my new book: Tim Bulkeley, Not Only a Father: Talk of God as Mother in the Bible &#38; Christian Tradition (Signs) Auckland: Archer Press, 2011 ISBN: 978-1468091373 Please contact me, please say both where you expect to publish the review (blogs are quite [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Freview-copies%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Screen-Shot-2011-12-31-at-3.36.19-PM.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1675" title="Screen Shot 2011-12-31 at 3.36.19 PM" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Screen-Shot-2011-12-31-at-3.36.19-PM-183x300.jpg" alt="" width="183" height="300" /></a>If you would like a review copy of the print version of my new book:</p>
<p>Tim Bulkeley, <em>Not Only a Father: Talk of God as Mother in the Bible &amp; Christian Tradition </em>(Signs) Auckland: Archer Press, 2011 ISBN: 978-1468091373</p>
<p>Please <a href="mailto:tim@carey.ac.nz">contact me</a>, please say both where you expect to publish the review (blogs are quite acceptable though a full review rather than a short note would be good) and when you are expect to write it. There are no conditions and you should be as critical as you normally would.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/review-copies/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>More on the Bible and marriage</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bible abuse]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bible: NT]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Family]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[interpretation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Mark]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Matthew]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1647</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Gavin (at Otagosh) posted a fairly long response to my piece Biblical marriages. Since he took the trouble to reply at some length as a post, I&#8217;ll do the same. His critique starts Then Tim makes an amazing statement: &#8220;In terms of the teaching of Scripture it is clear that Gen 2 is a privileged [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Fbible-abuse%2Fmore-on-the-bible-and-marriage%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_1660" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 131px"><a href="http://www.just-pooh.com/history.html"><img class="size-full wp-image-1660" title="photo-2" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/photo-2.jpg" alt="" width="121" height="151" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">From a webpage titled: History of Winnie the Pooh</p></div>
<p>Gavin (at Otagosh) posted a <a href="http://otagosh.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/biblical-marriage.html">fairly long response</a> to my piece <a title="Permalink to Biblical marriages" href="../bible/bible-abuse/biblical-marriages/">Biblical marriages</a>. Since he took the trouble to reply at some length as a post, I&#8217;ll do the same.</p>
<p>His critique starts</p>
<blockquote><p>Then Tim makes an amazing statement: &#8220;In terms of the teaching of Scripture it is clear that Gen 2 is a privileged text (Jesus and Paul both cite it when discussing marriage).&#8221;</p>
<p>Genesis 2 is a privileged text?  In what sense?  Both Jesus and Paul cite other texts too.  Or, to be more specific, Paul and the <span>Gospel writers</span> cite other texts.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_0_1647" id="identifier_0_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" I am sorry, I have spent half an hour playing with HTML but cannot reproduce gavin&amp;#8217;s emphasis in these quotes, something to do with the way this theme handles blockquotes :( ">1</a></sup></p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yes, evidently both Jesus and Paul<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_1_1647" id="identifier_1_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" See below, I&amp;#8217;ll continue to use these convenient shorthand designations despite Gavin&amp;#8217;s scorning of them. ">2</a></sup> also refer to other parts of Scripture. A full treatment of what the Bible says about marriage would need to treat them and yet other texts (that neither of these use) also. But still it seems to me, for a Christian reading of Scripture the fact that both Jesus and Paul (more than once) cite Gen 2 does make that passage a somewhat privileged locus for seeking a biblical understanding of marriage.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_2_1647" id="identifier_2_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Much like a blog post getting lots of links would privilegeit in Google&amp;#8217;s algorithms ;) ">3</a></sup> No, Gavin, I cannot accept that all texts, or passages, are equal. Like most people<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_3_1647" id="identifier_3_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Except raging fundamentalists. ">4</a></sup> I have a &#8220;canon within the canon, though it will be different for different purposes and I think that (as I began to here)<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_4_1647" id="identifier_4_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Though of course in a longer treatment I should have added other reasons, like the claim that Genesis serves as a preface to both the Torah and Scripture as a whole, and the further claim that the early chapters are particularly &amp;#8220;laden&amp;#8221; with significant teaching, and the claim that Gen 2 is &amp;#8220;about&amp;#8221; marriage and is one of few Old Testament texts that are&amp;#8230; ">5</a></sup></p>
<div id="attachment_1661" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 215px"><a href="http://www.just-pooh.com/history.html"><img class="size-full wp-image-1661" title="pk" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/pk.gif" alt="" width="205" height="125" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">From a webpage titled: History of Winnie the Pooh</p></div>
<p>Gavin continued:</p>
<blockquote><p>There were no &#8220;red letter&#8221; options available to indicate Jesus&#8217; actual words, quotation marks had yet to be invented, and speaking of &#8220;invented&#8221;, much (please note that I&#8217;m not saying all) of the material attributed to Jesus has clearly been put into his mouth.</p></blockquote>
<p>This seems to assume that when I say &#8220;Jesus&#8221; my interest is historical. There is a terrible tendency in modern thought to value history and &#8220;facts&#8221;. But I am not a historian, I am a theologian, my primary interest is not in reconstructing a plausible history but in the character &#8220;Jesus&#8221; who inspires and is the centre of the New Testament. This Jesus whether or not &#8220;invented&#8221;<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_5_1647" id="identifier_5_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" I know why I put quotation marks round the word, since i seriously doubt that the gospel authors or the traditions that may stand behind them intended to &amp;#8220;invent&amp;#8221;, but why does Gavin use scare quotes here? ">6</a></sup> does make special use of this passage.</p>
<p>This section of the post concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tim&#8217;s decision to anoint Genesis two as &#8220;privileged&#8221; is entired [sic]<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/#footnote_6_1647" id="identifier_6_1647" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" PS3/2/12&nbsp; now corrected in the original post. ">7</a></sup> theological and subjective.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope that I have shown that the first is entirely true, but perhaps to be expected of a theologian, and that the second is true only in the most general sense. I gave a reason that Gavin did not like, and in a short post failed to present any of the others, perhaps I have begun to rectify that lack above.</p>
<p>Gavin then quotes something I wrote and rejects it. I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;in this (as in everything else) human sinfulness warps and twists God’s intent. All of the &#8216;biblical&#8217; marriages listed in the graphic reflect this.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Gavin replied:</p>
<blockquote><p>The problem is that, as Tim knows full well, <strong><em>the documents themselves</em></strong> contain little or no condemnation of these customs.  If there&#8217;s warping and twisting going on, wouldn&#8217;t you assume that this would be signalled <strong><em>within the text</em>?  </strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Gavin and I might assume that, but the fact is that biblical narratives though they frequently recount the most terrible breaches of God&#8217;s desires (as expressed in the texts themselves) seldom mark them as such, we cannot rely on such explicit markers. But then the simple fact that no Bible character (with the arguable exception of Jesus) is presented without faults, sins and failings might suggest &#8211; and certainly does to my theological reading &#8211; that the Bible sees humans as sinful, warped and twisted. Nice middle-class liberal moderns may not like it, but we are all broken and in need of repair.</p>
<p>On the charge of biblicism that Gavin closes with, perhaps I&#8217;d be happy to plead guilty.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1647" class="footnote"> I am sorry, I have spent half an hour playing with HTML but cannot reproduce gavin&#8217;s emphasis in these quotes, something to do with the way this theme handles blockquotes :( </li><li id="footnote_1_1647" class="footnote"> See below, I&#8217;ll continue to use these convenient shorthand designations despite Gavin&#8217;s scorning of them. </li><li id="footnote_2_1647" class="footnote"> Much like a blog post getting lots of links would privilegeit in Google&#8217;s algorithms ;) </li><li id="footnote_3_1647" class="footnote"> Except raging fundamentalists. </li><li id="footnote_4_1647" class="footnote"> Though of course in a longer treatment I should have added other reasons, like the claim that Genesis serves as a preface to both the Torah and Scripture as a whole, and the further claim that the early chapters are particularly &#8220;laden&#8221; with significant teaching, and the claim that Gen 2 is &#8220;about&#8221; marriage and is one of few Old Testament texts that are&#8230; </li><li id="footnote_5_1647" class="footnote"> I know why I put quotation marks round the word, since i seriously doubt that the gospel authors or the traditions that may stand behind them intended to &#8220;invent&#8221;, but why does Gavin use scare quotes here? </li><li id="footnote_6_1647" class="footnote"> PS3/2/12  now corrected in the original post. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/more-on-the-bible-and-marriage/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Biblical marriages</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/biblical-marriages/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/biblical-marriages/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bible abuse]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Family]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gender]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Genesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[interpretation]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1644</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve seen several peopl, including Rowland Crowcher, post this &#8221;infographic&#8221; on Facebook. Since I&#8217;ve spoken quite a bit on &#8220;Family in the Bible&#8221;, and am due to speak to a leaders group from the NZ Christian Network on the &#8220;Theology of Marriage&#8221; really soon it makes me hopping mad! In one sense the graphic is &#8220;true&#8221;. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fbible%2Fbible-abuse%2Fbiblical-marriages%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_1645" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/marriage.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1645" title="marriage" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/marriage-300x215.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="215" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Facebook does not seen good at giving attributions, so I don&#39;t know who produced this, if it was you write to me and I&#39;ll gladly attribute it :)</p></div>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen several peopl, including <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowland.croucher">Rowland Crowcher</a>, post this &#8221;infographic&#8221; on Facebook. Since I&#8217;ve spoken quite a bit on &#8220;Family in the Bible&#8221;, and am due to speak to a leaders group from the NZ Christian Network on the &#8220;Theology of Marriage&#8221; really soon it makes me hopping mad!</p>
<p>In one sense the graphic is &#8220;true&#8221;. The Bible does present all these, and more (some arguably worse) patterns of marriage. It is also true that God chose to work in and through many of these. Just looking at Abraham (the &#8220;father&#8221; of the three monotheistic religions) or Jacob (aka &#8220;Israel&#8221;) makes it clear that God does not turn aside from some convoluted and perverse human arrangements in choosing who to use as a channel of grace.</p>
<p>But, do any of these represent &#8220;a biblical view of marriage&#8221;. Hell no! It is time for some stakes in the ground. In terms of the teaching of Scripture it is clear that Gen 2 is a privileged text (Jesus and Paul both cite it when discussing marriage). This passage, and the teaching of Jesus and Paul make some basics clear:</p>
<dl>
<dt><strong>Marriage</strong>:</dt>
</dl>
<ul>
<li>was ordained by God</li>
<li>is the union of a man and a woman</li>
<ul>
<li>produces and nurtures the next generation</li>
<li>provides necessary partnership</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<p>However, in this (as in everything else) human sinfulness warps and twists God&#8217;s intent. All of the &#8220;biblical&#8221; marriages listed in the graphic reflect this.</p>
<p>See some of my earlier posts for background to this one:</p>
<ul>
<li> <a title="Permalink to What is a family?" href="../ot/ot/family-in-the-bible/">What is a family?</a></li>
<li><a title="Permalink to Does the Bible present a preferred pattern of family?" href="../ot/ot/does-the-bible-present-a-preferred-pattern-of-family/">Does the Bible present a preferred pattern of family</a></li>
<li><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/ot/reading-the-bible-seeking-teaching-on-family/">Reading the Bible: seeking teaching on family</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I am aware that what I have written in the very short and angry post here will be understood by some people as endorsing particular views on the currently hot and vexed topic of &#8220;Gay marriages&#8221;. It does. Gay marriage is an oxymoron since not only is marriage the partnership of a man and a woman, but also intended to produce as well as nurture the next generation. However, the view endorsed above says nothing about either Civil Unions, or about the possibility of blessing (or even solemnising) them in churches. As far as I am concerned that seem to be separate issues, and ones on which my view of marriage does not entail any particular position. I wish that we (Christians of all stripes, marriage activists of every opinion, and especially the authorities of both states and churches) would just sit back and separate the two things and issues.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/bible/bible-abuse/biblical-marriages/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Extract from &#8220;Teaching Theology to Children&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/extract-from-teaching-theology-to-children/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/extract-from-teaching-theology-to-children/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Education]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Teaching]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Theology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Video]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1640</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Here is an extract from the long video I linked to the other day. The extract covers reasons why we should teach theology to adults and children together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Feducation%2Fextract-from-teaching-theology-to-children%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>Here is an extract from the <a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/teaching-theology-to-children/">long video </a>I linked to the other day. The extract covers reasons why we should teach theology to adults and children together.<br />
<iframe src="http://blip.tv/play/AYLo9xYA.html?p=1" frameborder="0" width="768" height="606"></iframe><object style="display: none;" width="320" height="240" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="src" value="http://a.blip.tv/api.swf#AYLo9xYA" /><embed style="display: none;" width="320" height="240" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://a.blip.tv/api.swf#AYLo9xYA" /></object></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/extract-from-teaching-theology-to-children/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Teaching theology to children</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/teaching-theology-to-children/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/teaching-theology-to-children/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Children's stories]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Family]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Theology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1633</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The workshop Barbara and I did for the NZ Baptist Gathering in November is now available as a video (along with other sessions). It is here. Do make any objections, ask any questions, or whatever :) it&#8217;s a topic we care about!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fspirituality%2Ftheology%2Fteaching-theology-to-children%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>The workshop Barbara and I did for the NZ Baptist Gathering in November is now available as a video (along with other sessions). <a href="http://www.baptist.org.nz/index.php?option=com_docman&amp;task=cat_view&amp;gid=90&amp;Itemid=124&amp;limitstart=12">It is here</a>. Do make any objections, ask any questions, or whatever :) it&#8217;s a topic we care about!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/teaching-theology-to-children/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Psalm for a new year</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Aging]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gender]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[God as mother]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psalms]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Teaching Bible]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1589</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Psalm 90 makes a fine reading for a new year. Through the psalm, time (and especially the haunting disparity between short brutish human time and the timeless divine reality) is a strong theme. The psalm is peppered with time words: dor generation in v.1 (x2) b&#8217;terem before in v.2 shanah year in vv.4, 5, 9, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Feducation%2Fteaching-bible%2Fpsalm-for-a-new-year%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>Psalm 90 makes a fine reading for a new year. Through the psalm, time (and especially the haunting disparity between short brutish human time and the timeless divine reality) is a strong theme. The psalm is peppered with time words:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>dor </em>generation in v.1 (x2)</li>
<li><em>b&#8217;terem </em>before in v.2</li>
<li><em>shanah </em>year in vv.4, 5, 9, 10 (x3), 15</li>
<li><em>yom </em>day in vv.4, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15</li>
<li><em>ashmorah </em>night watch in v.4</li>
<li><em><em>boqer </em></em>morning in v.5, 6, 14</li>
<li><em>ereb </em>evening in v.6</li>
<li><em>chish </em>quickly in v.10</li>
</ul>
<p>The psalm opens in the distant past with a heading associating it with Moses the great leader from Israel&#8217;s pre-monarchic origins.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/#footnote_0_1589" id="identifier_0_1589" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Although there is considerable evidence that the headings may have been added to psalms after they were first written and used, there is no textual evidence for them being absent from the psalms that have them in most modern translations. Rather the reverse the early Greek&nbsp; translation and the Qumran psalms scrolls seem to have more of these headings, suggesting that they were later additions. ">1</a></sup></p>
<p>The rest of the first verse forefronts the two key ideas of the psalm, time and our relationship with God. The wording of the opening stresses the persons involved. Very literally it would read: &#8220;<em>Lord, a dwelling, you, you have been for us from generation to generation.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>This attention to time carries on through the psalm, and is straightaway extended in the next verse from a human timescale from &#8220;<em>generation to generation</em>&#8221; to extend from before the birth of the world into the &#8220;age&#8221;<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/#footnote_1_1589" id="identifier_1_1589" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Whatever exactly &amp;#8216;olam means. ">2</a></sup>  to come:</p>
<blockquote><p>Before the mountains were born <em></em><br />
or ever you had given birth to <em></em>the earth and the world,<br />
from age to age you are God.</p></blockquote>
<p>From verse 3 to 11 the focus on time stresses time and again that the human and the divine timescales are incommensurable, and that humans suffer the divine wrath. This is not a psalm for the faint hearted, or for people living the comfortable smooth lives our TVs and magazines tell us <strong>should</strong> be ours. This psalm is not compatible with the Western dream.</p>
<p>But it &#8220;works&#8221; in a world full of natural disaster: earthquakes (still going on in Christchurch after over a year), floods (and even the minor ones in the Bay of Plenty yesterday cause pain and disruption), and all of man&#8217;s inhumanity to man (although 2011 was a year with more glimpses of hope for Burma that anyone expected as 2012 begins the Army is still attacking ethnic villages and destroying their crops, the political prisoners kept in inhuman conditions in the jails can still be counted as over a thousand).</p>
<p>Ps 90:10 is often quoted in something approximating to the fairly literal KJV: &#8220;The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years&#8221; this with its mention of strength suggests (or in the last few generations reminds us) that we might even live longer. However, in the psalm the effect is quite different, to quote the whole verse:</p>
<blockquote><p>The days of our years are threescore years and ten;<br />
and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years,<br />
yet is their strength labour and sorrow;<br />
for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.</p></blockquote>
<p>The whole point of the verse is that even if our life is long it is marked (sooner or later) by toil and trouble, and in any case (by any measure but our own pitifully brief one) are so short. Anyone who has reached &#8220;a certain age&#8221;<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/#footnote_2_1589" id="identifier_2_1589" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" 50, 40, 30&amp;#8230;? ">3</a></sup> will recognise how the years begin to fly away faster and faster.</p>
<p>So far, if I have presented it as I think it should be read, Psalm 90 is as far from contemporary cheery upbeat &#8220;worship songs&#8221; as it is possible to be ;)</p>
<p>Yet, it was my grandmother&#8217;s favourite psalm. Perhaps because the hymn based on it &#8220;<strong>Our God, our help in ages past</strong>&#8230;&#8221; used to be sung every &#8220;Remembrance Sunday&#8221;, and she had cause to remember. Her groom, my father&#8217;s father, was killed in the first world war leaving his new wife and toddler. Psalm 90 is a good new year reading in such circumstances. For as well as human mortality it reminds us of the divine author and finisher of our lives. &#8220;&#8230;<strong>our hope for years to come!</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>There are two more reasons why this psalm is a favourite of mine. It is one of the few passages in Scripture to deal seriously and in any depth with human aging. And it contains one of the Bible&#8217;s few descriptions of creation as birthing:</p>
<blockquote><p>Before the mountains were born<br />
or ever you had given birth to the earth and the world,<br />
from age to age you are God. (Ps 90:2)</p></blockquote>
<p>As a result it gets a brief appearance in my new book <a href="http://bigbible.org/mothergod/"><em>Not Only a Father</em></a>,<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/#footnote_3_1589" id="identifier_3_1589" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" I will add a link to the print version soon, for now the text is already available online in discussable format. ">4</a></sup> and will deserve much fuller treatment in the one on human aging, if I ever write it ;)</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1589" class="footnote"> Although there is considerable evidence that the headings may have been added to psalms after they were first written and used, there is no <strong>textual</strong> evidence for them being absent from the psalms that have them in most modern translations. Rather the reverse the early Greek  translation and the Qumran psalms scrolls seem to have more of these headings, suggesting that they were later additions. </li><li id="footnote_1_1589" class="footnote"> Whatever exactly<em> &#8216;olam</em> means. </li><li id="footnote_2_1589" class="footnote"> 50, 40, 30&#8230;? </li><li id="footnote_3_1589" class="footnote"> I will add a link to the print version soon, for now the text is already available online in discussable format. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/teaching-bible/psalm-for-a-new-year/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Seeking the Peace of Jerusalem</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/seeking-the-peace-of-jerusalem/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/seeking-the-peace-of-jerusalem/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Theology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Israel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[israeli]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Palestine]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[palestinian]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Zionism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[zionist]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1539</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of knee-jerk Christian Zionism around. This perversion of Evangelical respect for Scripture is even common in NZ. So I am delighted that Bethlehem Bible College (a fine Evangelical seminary where a colleague of mine recently spent a sabbatical) are organising a conference &#8220;Christ at the Checkpoint&#8221; which aims to provide an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fspirituality%2Ftheology%2Fseeking-the-peace-of-jerusalem%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>There is a lot of knee-jerk Christian Zionism around. This perversion of Evangelical respect for Scripture is even common in NZ. So I am delighted that Bethlehem Bible College (a fine Evangelical seminary where a colleague of mine recently spent a sabbatical) are organising a conference &#8220;<a href="http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com">Christ at the Checkpoint</a>&#8221; which aims</p>
<blockquote><p>to provide an opportunity for Evangelical Christians to prayerfully seek a proper awareness of issues of peace, justice, and reconciliation in the context of the realities on the ground in the Palestinian Territories. It will also provide a platform for serious engagement with Christian Zionism and an open forum for ongoing dialogue between all positions within the Evangelical theological spectrum.</p></blockquote>
<p>These aims are good, carefully worded, and full of peace. Although I have deep respect for my Jewish fellow students of the Hebrew Bible (a disproportionate number of the most sensitive and careful, as well as knowledgeable biblical scholars are Jewish) and affection for the Israeli Jewish families at whose tables I have eaten, their governments have and are acted cruelly and unjustly towards the Palestinian people.</p>
<p>This conference should be supported, even without the <a href="http://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/index.php/blog/79-blogging-contest">Blogging Contest!</a> We should all be linking to Christ at the Checkpoint, and seeking to generate support for our Palestinian brothers and sisters in Christ, who are seeking understanding and peace.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/31097528?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" frameborder="0" width="400" height="225"></iframe></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://vimeo.com/31097528">Hope in the Midst of Conflict</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/christatthecheckpoint">Christ at the Checkpoint</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>HT: <a href="http://zwingliusredivivus.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/the-contest-of-the-century/">Jim West</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/theology/seeking-the-peace-of-jerusalem/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>3</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Jesus and talk of God as father (part two)</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/nt/matthew/jesus-and-talk-of-god-as-father-part-two/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/nt/matthew/jesus-and-talk-of-god-as-father-part-two/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bible: NT]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gender]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[God as mother]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Matthew]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1519</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[See also: Jesus and talk of God as father (part one) When thinking about Jesus&#8217; talk of God as father it is useful to examine how, in fact, he pictured God the Father. What did he mean by calling God ‘father’? To set this question in context it is helpful to consider the cultural stereotypes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fnt%2Fmatthew%2Fjesus-and-talk-of-god-as-father-part-two%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_1521" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 209px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seandreilinger/982017277/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1521" title="982017277_ae790959bf_o" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/982017277_ae790959bf_o-e1320092348972-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo by sean dreilinger</p></div>
<p>See also: <a title="Permalink to Jesus and talk of God as father (part one)" href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/nt/luke/jesus-and-talk-of-god-as-father-part-one/">Jesus and talk of God as father (part one)</a></p>
<p>When thinking about Jesus&#8217; talk of God as father it is useful to examine how, in fact, he pictured God the Father. What did he mean by calling God ‘father’? To set this question in context it is helpful to consider the cultural stereotypes of father that were common in the ancient Eastern Mediterranean and the Roman Empire. Authority and discipline (especially the disciplining of male children) were strong and frequent overtones of father-language in the ancient world. Pilch explained the cultural stereotypes of parents in the biblical world like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Clearly, the father is viewed as severe, stern and authoritarian; the mother is viewed as loving and compassionate. Children respect and fear the father but love the mother affectionately even after they are married.<sup><a href="#sdfootnote1sym"><sup>1</sup></a></sup></p></blockquote>
<p>Such an understanding of the stern authoritarianism is almost absent<sup><a href="#sdfootnote2sym"><sup>2</sup></a></sup> from father-talk in the Gospels. Rather, in Jesus&#8217; speech, fathers feed and clothe their children (Matt 6:26-32; Luke 11:1-2, 13; 12:30; John 6:32 cf. Luke 24:49; John 6:27); give gifts to both good and bad children (Matt 5:45); are forgiving rather than punishing (Matt 6:14-15; 18:35; Mark 11:25; Luke 6:36 though the father does judge, in John 5:45; 8:16 but cf. 5:22); God as father deals with “infants” and “little ones” (Matt 11:25; 18:14; Luke 10:21). This divine “father” acts in ways which often fit the ancient world&#8217;s cultural stereotype of the mother more closely than they do the expectations of fatherly behaviour.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="#sdfootnote1anc">1</a> John J. Pilch, ‘Parenting,’ in John J. Pilch and Bruce J. Malina (eds.) <em>Handbook of Biblical Social Values</em> (Peabody: Hendrickson, 1998), 147.</span></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman,serif;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="#sdfootnote2anc">2</a> Mat 21:30f.; John 14:28 may be exceptions.</span></span></span></p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/nt/matthew/jesus-and-talk-of-god-as-father-part-two/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>E/egalitarian and/or C/complementarian?</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/gender/eegalitarian-andor-ccomplementarian/</link>
		<comments>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/gender/eegalitarian-andor-ccomplementarian/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Gender]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[God as mother]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Humour]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/?p=1505</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[On Facebook yesterday I was prompted to reflect on the oddities that our herd mentality imposes on humans. We often signal words that name these &#8220;herds&#8221; linguistically (rightly or wrongly)1 by giving nouns that name human herds capital letters. Thus I am catholic but not Catholic in my tastes.2 Capitalisation to indicate herd membership is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fbigbible.org%2Fsansblogue%2Fspirituality%2Fgender%2Feegalitarian-andor-ccomplementarian%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><div id="attachment_1507" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Herd_Of_Goats1.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1507" title="Herd_Of_Goats" src="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Herd_Of_Goats1-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Herd of goats (photo by AlMare)</p></div>
<p>On Facebook yesterday I was prompted to reflect on the oddities that our herd mentality imposes on humans. We often signal words that name these &#8220;herds&#8221; linguistically (rightly or wrongly)<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/gender/eegalitarian-andor-ccomplementarian/#footnote_0_1505" id="identifier_0_1505" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" All you orthographic pedants can have a field-day discussing which ;) ">1</a></sup> by giving nouns that name human herds capital letters. Thus I am catholic but not Catholic in my tastes.<sup><a href="http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/gender/eegalitarian-andor-ccomplementarian/#footnote_1_1505" id="identifier_1_1505" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Though actually this statement, made by way of example, may not be true, I suspect in many things I&amp;#8217;d be both, though I am not at all a member of the Catholic &amp;#8220;herd&amp;#8221;. ">2</a></sup></p>
<p>Capitalisation to indicate herd membership is a handy tool. But it can make life complex.</p>
<p>Am I egalitarian or am I complementarian? Surely the answer has to be yes. As a Congolese student replied when my American colleague (who liked things to be precise) asked if he spelled his name with or without a hyphen &#8211; he did, he spelled it either way! I am egalitarian, I believe that God created men and women equally and of equal worth and with equal &#8220;inalienable rights&#8221;. I am also a complementarian, I am delighted that God made men and women different, to return to teaching classes comprised (as they were 20 years ago) almost entirely of men would be horrible!</p>
<p>But rewrite the question: Am I a Complementarian? and I have to answer &#8220;no&#8221;. For to answer &#8220;yes&#8221; to <strong>that </strong>question would imply agreeing with the lunatic posturings of those insecure human males who seem to think that if women are allowed to be really equal they will outperform them. On the other hand, I am not too keen to label myself as Egalitarian. For then I&#8217;d be tarred with the brush of those stupid enough to pretend that there are no consistent gender differences, and while Barbara can and did bear and birth babies I cannot, and I like to respect such brute facts.</p>
<p>So, on this issue am I a E/egalitarian and/or C/complementarian? Yes I am if you wish to label me and my views on issues of gender please refer to me as an E/egalitarian and/or C/complementarian !</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1505" class="footnote"> All you orthographic pedants can have a field-day discussing which ;) </li><li id="footnote_1_1505" class="footnote"> Though actually this statement, made by way of example, may not be true, I suspect in many things I&#8217;d be both, though I am not at all a member of the Catholic &#8220;herd&#8221;. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/spirituality/gender/eegalitarian-andor-ccomplementarian/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

