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	<title>Comments on: Computers in class :: or a false view of teaching?</title>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/computers-in-class-or-a-false-view-of-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Brooke, I thoroughly agree, though I have not yet had the courage to make the podcast (even with slides) the main method of transferring information, I do use textbooks or other prescribed reading as a way to free class time for interaction. Q &amp; A, exercises etc. depending on the class. I must try the screencast approach...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Brooke, I thoroughly agree, though I have not yet had the courage to make the podcast (even with slides) the main method of transferring information, I do use textbooks or other prescribed reading as a way to free class time for interaction. Q &#038; A, exercises etc. depending on the class. I must try the screencast approach&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/computers-in-class-or-a-false-view-of-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to move lecture to an asynchronous venue (for me, slide-enhanced podcasts), and use the freed-up session time for Q&amp;A on that content. Students have responded well: they like to be able to pause, review, break the lecture into smaller chunks, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to move lecture to an asynchronous venue (for me, slide-enhanced podcasts), and use the freed-up session time for Q&amp;A on that content. Students have responded well: they like to be able to pause, review, break the lecture into smaller chunks, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/computers-in-class-or-a-false-view-of-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to salveofone:
&lt;i&gt;First, a lecture engages a whole different set of communication centers in the brain and mind. Reading is not the same as hearing. Some people learn better by hearing, some learn better by reading.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but... if the difference is JUST hearing then a podcast would work as well as a lecture, you can &#039;rewind&#039; a podcast.

&lt;i&gt;Second, while a book is more like a repository of argument and information, a professor giving a lecture is more like a filter of argument and information. &lt;/i&gt;

Again, yes, but... if the book is a well chosen textbook it will be thus selective, and again can be &#039;rewound&#039;.

&lt;i&gt;Third, the book doesn’t have any way to engage the reader in terms of their understanding of the material&lt;/i&gt;

Nor does a &#039;lecture&#039;, that&#039;s why valuable class time should not be wasted on lecturing ;)

&lt;i&gt;Fourth, the structure of having a class which requires one to have a certain amount of material ready by that time, is for many people a necessity. It’s like working at home as opposed to going somewhere to work.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not against classes, just &#039;lectures&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to salveofone:<br />
<i>First, a lecture engages a whole different set of communication centers in the brain and mind. Reading is not the same as hearing. Some people learn better by hearing, some learn better by reading.</i></p>
<p>Yes, but&#8230; if the difference is JUST hearing then a podcast would work as well as a lecture, you can &#8216;rewind&#8217; a podcast.</p>
<p><i>Second, while a book is more like a repository of argument and information, a professor giving a lecture is more like a filter of argument and information. </i></p>
<p>Again, yes, but&#8230; if the book is a well chosen textbook it will be thus selective, and again can be &#8216;rewound&#8217;.</p>
<p><i>Third, the book doesn’t have any way to engage the reader in terms of their understanding of the material</i></p>
<p>Nor does a &#8216;lecture&#8217;, that&#8217;s why valuable class time should not be wasted on lecturing ;)</p>
<p><i>Fourth, the structure of having a class which requires one to have a certain amount of material ready by that time, is for many people a necessity. It’s like working at home as opposed to going somewhere to work.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against classes, just &#8216;lectures&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/computers-in-class-or-a-false-view-of-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link you&#039;ve used works fine  :) The one that may not in the future is to another doimain, altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link you&#8217;ve used works fine  :) The one that may not in the future is to another doimain, altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat McCullough</title>
		<link>http://bigbible.org/sansblogue/education/computers-in-class-or-a-false-view-of-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim, I also referred to your post in a small series of posts I just started yesterday: &lt;a href=&quot;http://patmccullough.com/2010/04/25/another-laptops-in-the-classroom-article/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Part One&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://patmccullough.com/2010/04/26/laptops-in-the-classroom-an-autobiography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Part Two&lt;/a&gt;, and part three comes later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim, I also referred to your post in a small series of posts I just started yesterday: <a href="http://patmccullough.com/2010/04/25/another-laptops-in-the-classroom-article/" rel="nofollow">Part One</a>, <a href="http://patmccullough.com/2010/04/26/laptops-in-the-classroom-an-autobiography/" rel="nofollow">Part Two</a>, and part three comes later.</p>
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		<title>By: slaveofone</title>
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		<dc:creator>slaveofone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by &lt;a href=&quot;http://echoofeden.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;slaveofone&lt;/a&gt; copied from old blog.

“The lecture as a means to transfer information and ideas (as data) is inefficient and inconvenient, compared to print.”

I strongly and emphatically disagree. First, a lecture engages a whole different set of communication centers in the brain and mind. Reading is not the same as hearing. Some people learn better by hearing, some learn better by reading. Second, while a book is more like a repository of argument and information, a professor giving a lecture is more like a filter of argument and information. A book doesn’t care if its information uses up more time than you have, but a professor is limited to the hours of the class and will present things in a way that best enables students to learn what they need to learn in the time allotted. Rather than being less efficient, this is more efficient than a book. Third, the book doesn’t have any way to engage the reader in terms of their understanding of the material—like, for instance, to make sure they truly understand the details of an argument that the book is presenting—whereas a teacher does have this ability to gauge whether they are grasping concepts correctly and to pass on what they SHOULD have learned if they have not, in fact, learned that. Fourth, the structure of having a class which requires one to have a certain amount of material ready by that time, is for many people a necessity. It’s like working at home as opposed to going somewhere to work. Most people need to go somewhere to work because they get less done if they are home doing it. Same with having to show up at school and go to a class where you are expected to perform at a certain level in that class. Fifth, some people are very, very slow readers. I’m speaking of myself particularly. Reading is great, but it’s a long, long, laborious, hours-and-hours-consuming chore. Sitting in a lecture is not. I could go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by <a href="http://echoofeden.com" rel="nofollow">slaveofone</a> copied from old blog.</p>
<p>“The lecture as a means to transfer information and ideas (as data) is inefficient and inconvenient, compared to print.”</p>
<p>I strongly and emphatically disagree. First, a lecture engages a whole different set of communication centers in the brain and mind. Reading is not the same as hearing. Some people learn better by hearing, some learn better by reading. Second, while a book is more like a repository of argument and information, a professor giving a lecture is more like a filter of argument and information. A book doesn’t care if its information uses up more time than you have, but a professor is limited to the hours of the class and will present things in a way that best enables students to learn what they need to learn in the time allotted. Rather than being less efficient, this is more efficient than a book. Third, the book doesn’t have any way to engage the reader in terms of their understanding of the material—like, for instance, to make sure they truly understand the details of an argument that the book is presenting—whereas a teacher does have this ability to gauge whether they are grasping concepts correctly and to pass on what they SHOULD have learned if they have not, in fact, learned that. Fourth, the structure of having a class which requires one to have a certain amount of material ready by that time, is for many people a necessity. It’s like working at home as opposed to going somewhere to work. Most people need to go somewhere to work because they get less done if they are home doing it. Same with having to show up at school and go to a class where you are expected to perform at a certain level in that class. Fifth, some people are very, very slow readers. I’m speaking of myself particularly. Reading is great, but it’s a long, long, laborious, hours-and-hours-consuming chore. Sitting in a lecture is not. I could go on.</p>
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